"No, snogon," Octavia murmured. (Was the word choice on purpose, there? She wouldn't say.) "And I won't speak for Lucifer, because... That's his business."
Even if she had guesses, and all of them centered around a certain detective.
"But I know I got uncomfortable because 'dating' sounds so -- definite. Like it's defined from the outside, because that comes with expectations and baggage."
Duke was pretty sure for Lucifer it had everything to do with a certain detective. And wanting a back door.
He was pretty used to people wanting those with him, too.
"There are people who like the fact that it's clearly defined," he pointed out. "And I know you like knowing what to expect from things. You think maybe it's more that it's defined by the 20th century, and not your own culture?"
"Defined from the outside," Octavia pointed out. "That's included in that. But no, this isn't my culture. Which makes it worse somehow, because that means it's a word that means more to the people on the outside than it does to me."
Duke honestly had been sure if she'd care. He hadn't consciously thought about it, but -- well, she always just kind of barreled ahead with her own opinions, and let him follow along.
"I think it's just a word," he said slowly. "One that means spending time together romantically. I mean, it doesn't even have to mean being sexual or exclusive, just -- getting together with the full intention of being romantic about it."
"Of course not," Octavia said, with a small hint of relief. "I've never told anyone you and me are dating, but that doesn't mean I haven't made sure they know we're together."
"There you go, then," Duke said. "And -- I mean, as long as Lucifer doesn't go around telling people he hates us or something, he can call it what he likes, too."
Yes, Duke had absolutely had partners in the past who'd claimed to hate him when talking to other people. Not just Nathan, either. It was practically a theme of his love life, before Evi.
(It probably explained some things about his relationship with Evi, really. She gloried in calling him her husband, after all.)
"I think she might be right." They all had their love languages, after all. "Anyway... There's something you and me didn't talk about, which we maybe should."
"It's not a huge deal," Octavia said, because she felt like she should. Before she worried him, or anything.
And no, that wasn't actually answer to his question. Also, what was that noise in the background? Just something she was realizing she could and should have done earlier in this conversation.
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Date: 2020-12-22 05:55 pm (UTC)Even if she had guesses, and all of them centered around a certain detective.
"But I know I got uncomfortable because 'dating' sounds so -- definite. Like it's defined from the outside, because that comes with expectations and baggage."
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Date: 2020-12-22 05:59 pm (UTC)He was pretty used to people wanting those with him, too.
"There are people who like the fact that it's clearly defined," he pointed out. "And I know you like knowing what to expect from things. You think maybe it's more that it's defined by the 20th century, and not your own culture?"
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Date: 2020-12-22 06:19 pm (UTC)Then: "That's all?"
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Date: 2020-12-22 06:32 pm (UTC)"I get it," he said. "I'm not going to wholeheartedly agree, but I respect it. We won't use that word."
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Date: 2020-12-22 06:34 pm (UTC)"I just thought you might want to --" Talk to her. "-- tell me what your thoughts are."
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Date: 2020-12-22 06:42 pm (UTC)"I think it's just a word," he said slowly. "One that means spending time together romantically. I mean, it doesn't even have to mean being sexual or exclusive, just -- getting together with the full intention of being romantic about it."
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Date: 2020-12-22 06:50 pm (UTC)(It was like the one relationship skill she was consciously trying to learn. Bringing her toolkit up to a total of... maybe two and a half skills.)
"And does it matter to you?" she asked, voice just a little quieter.
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Date: 2020-12-22 07:28 pm (UTC)She wanted to put her own labels on things. Words like snogon, which meant as much as "boyfriend" ever had, just in her own language.
"It's not like you're pretending it isn't happening, right?"
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Date: 2020-12-22 07:53 pm (UTC)Yes, Duke had absolutely had partners in the past who'd claimed to hate him when talking to other people. Not just Nathan, either. It was practically a theme of his love life, before Evi.
(It probably explained some things about his relationship with Evi, really. She gloried in calling him her husband, after all.)
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Date: 2020-12-22 08:16 pm (UTC)"And Lucifer doesn't lie," she said, "so he's not going to do that."
He was definitely going to be telling people they were unnecessarily complicated, though.
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Date: 2020-12-22 08:46 pm (UTC)"That's true. He does like to spend a lot of his time making fun of me, though."
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Date: 2020-12-22 08:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-12-22 09:04 pm (UTC)And no, that wasn't actually answer to his question. Also, what was that noise in the background? Just something she was realizing she could and should have done earlier in this conversation.
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Date: 2020-12-22 09:53 pm (UTC)He really wasn’t sure about that noise, either.
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Date: 2020-12-22 09:58 pm (UTC)"That was me trying to get the porgs to get out of my way so I can leave."
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Date: 2020-12-22 10:11 pm (UTC)And then there was no background noise once her boots hit the dock. "Not because this needs a face-to-face. I just want to see you."
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Date: 2020-12-22 10:30 pm (UTC)She didn't really have a very strong opinion either way.
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